Saturday, September 06, 2008

McCain The Collectivist

Yes McCain is a lifelong collectivist. But before you can realize this absolute fact you must become acquainted with the meaning of the word "collectivist." A collectivist believes the individual must sacrifice their individual rights for collective rewards, punishments and group responsibilities.

An example of McCain's collectivist ways is his McCain Feingold Campaign Finance laws restricting free speech. Apparently the collectivists on the Hill and in the White House do not grasp the meaning of, "Congress shall make no law..." These unprincipled snakes feel English is but a theory to be interpreted by their black robed tyrants stacked in the courts. So in McCain's collectivist thinking he felt that since some may abuse their free speech rights to pervert the political process the entire group must be punished and restricted by various free speech gagging rules.

But here is the hypocritical part about McCain. HE HAS VIOLATED HIS VERY ON LAW! That's because in reality these snakes make their collectivist laws but they never apply them to themselves. They are meant to be used only on the little people outside of power. So first McCain says he is going to take public financing which comes with his spending restrictions. He takes the money, spends it then realizes it will not be near enough to weasel his way into the White House. So he pulls out of the program and begins to rake in the big special interest money. This is a violation of his very own law. Worse yet, in places like Ohio if you take public financing you do not have to petition to get into the Primaries. But when McCain pulled out of the public financing scam he should have had to petition like everybody else in Ohio to get onto the ballot. But collectivist violations to the U.S. Constitution are only meant for us little people - not the wise grand wizards of politics like McCain. Though technically under his unconstitutional law and Ohio state law all of McCain's delegates from Ohio are illegal, null and void. He was supposed to have been banned from the ballot as my political candidates always are as a result of these collectivist violations of the spirit and the letter of the Constitution. McCain and Obama have legal problems in Texas as well and both should be kept off the general election ballot in November but don't count on that happening. Remember, collectivist rules only apply to us little people - never them.

24 Comments:

Blogger Angel Garzón said...

McCain-Feingold is an unConstitutional abomination, Senator McCain has stated that he was sorely incorrect when he jointly proposed it, his intentions were good but the results were not, you must know this to be true for you're not the average Joe that has no knowledge of the Constitution.

Concerning the Primaries, you know very well that they are nothing more than a selection process and not truly an election per say. Why have you Paulistas not been successful at convincing the people to side with you? the question is rhetorical, we both know the answer, your candidate does not know how to present himself in a way that would assure him a modicum of success during the primaries, he behaved like a child, which is why the majority of his supporters were young Anglo-Saxon and white, the products of the easy life at their parents expense who are constantly asking for more the more they get, spoiled brats that behaved as expected of such ilk, childishly expecting and demanding to be heard, in order to be heard you have to play the game and choose your words carefully, otherwise the majority of the people will ignore you, that is the reality, whether you Paulistas like it or not, that does not change it, ignoring reality does not make you immune from it and its consequences, grow up and deliver the intelligent and realistic way, otherwise you will never be given any chance to be heard.

12:47 PM  
Blogger Tomás Estrada-Palma said...

Again you sling arrows but they miss there mark with no tangible examples of how for example, my actions are in any way childish. Apparently, in your belief by not agreeing with you I am childish.

As for the primaries I could not hope to have a clue as to how much support anyone garnered. The process is maned by a criminal cartel whether you realize it or not. There is ample evident of that for any reasonable thinker that has gone uninvestigated or prosecuted by this criminal syndicate.

As I understand it, you favor not obeying the Republican Party rules and strictly adhering to the constitution? Or do you believe in these fundamental ideas but somehow think they can be forwarded by rulers who at every instants violate these very principles? Heck that kind of approach seem a bit feeble to me, don't you think so? Do you think people who violate their oath of office are going to change their ways?

So McCain says he sorry for violating that free speech thingy in the Constitution. What about the Federal Reserve and the Constitution's clear definition of money as gold and silver. John's tongue hath wagged much on the minutia of the day but not one word on this clear violation of the U.S. Constitution. Could you squeeze an apology for this transgression on the document the liar swore an oath to uphold? There is no clear explanation of how this fiat money scam that will soon put your family and mine in grave jeopardy could possibly be constitutional. You are legally bound to use constantly value shrinking dollars by unconstitutional law. Just because the crooks have gotten away with it for almost a 100 years and is virtually the same monetary mechanism as Castros uses sure doesn't make it okay. Don't ya think? Do you think it's okay to violate this portion of the Constitution and use Castro type money?

I could go on forever giving examples of how John McCain is a boldface liar and a disgrace as an American but I hope you get my point. I need not accuse you of being childish to prove my points because I have tangible arguments against your blanket support for McCain the liar. You vote for a liar my friend and a member of The Council On Foreign Relations just like Obama and Hillary. You probably like most Americans think that the president is the top commander. But the banksters who put on this dog and pony show known as the election that millions of you get all worked up about 'cause that other feller might win and that would suck even worse, don't really give a rat's ass who you pick. Both parties are sold out and only skeleton is the closet candidates are allowed so they must do the bidding of their masters in the banker cartel.

Can I prove it? Naw. They just govern that way is all that gives me suspicion. Somehow though for 30 years one honest man, Ron Earnest Paul has gone to Washington, DC and never voted against his oath of office. Still you insist I choose the lesser of two liars. Again I'm sorry my friend. It is more than I can do.

1:26 PM  
Blogger Tomás Estrada-Palma said...

If you don't think the Council on Foreign Relations is important do some research and discover who the gilded era capitalists who created it were. You'll be shocked.

1:32 PM  
Blogger Angel Garzón said...

There you go again, are you losing your capacity for understanding? I know that, what I am telling you is that blabbering the same thing ad nauseam will not win you any allies to your cause, it gets tiresome after a few times, don't you get it? when you behave that way constantly, people begin to believe that you are a one track minded person and will not pay you any mind, learn to play the game so you can be allowed to participate and influence that game, grow up.

1:44 PM  
Blogger Tomás Estrada-Palma said...

There you are wrong again. Our revolution is growing. The msm that also lies about Castro hasn't shown you proof yet but it is happening none the less. I see our numbers growing exponentially worldwide everyday.

Of course you have to look other than to the idiot box for valid information to find out what's really going on in the world.

Again you are long on labels but alas way short on logical argument. You never bothered to address my questions on the constitution. Should I like the politicos who ignore the 10th Amendment assume you are against the Constitution and the God given rights enumerated in the document?

What I'm getting from you is you somehow think it wise to vote for a liar who violates his oath of office and is an avowed collectivist, perhaps not in his rhetoric I'll admit, but certainly in his deeds. Still you have given me not one logical argument as to why other than, " you sez so."

2:53 PM  
Blogger Angel Garzón said...

Apparently you suffer from a form of selective Alzheimer's Disease, you of all people should know by now that unlike you, I do not allow anyone to easily mislead me, you see I was not born and raised in the good 'ol USA, a country that I love but that nevertheless has many flaws that I am not afraid to point out when appropriate, relevant and within the correct context, unlike you I was born and raised in Cuba, I lived through Casstroist Communism and Franco's Falangism (Spain's version of Nationalist Socialism), I do not blindly follow and support in any way, shape or form anyone that has the slightest amount of Socialist and Marxist ideology as their ideological foundations, so stop pretending that you do not know that I can smell a Lefty from one thousand miles away because honestly you and I both know that my first hand experiences with them qualify me more infinetely than your easy life in the USA, you have never been at the receiving end of the Socialist, Communist and every Left leaning system except the "Liberal" brand that used to be the Democratic Party, so there you have it, your innuendo about being deceived by watching the idiot box does not fit me, and you should know that by now, it does not work with me, it might work with Don RoyceRoy Dominguez, but not with me pal.

We are not talking about the Constitution, we are talking about the reality that we are faced with in November, we are talking about your constant repetitiion of the same stuff while refusing to face the reality that we are faced with, you choose to withdraw unto your little fable of the same repetitious talking points and you refuse to accept the reality that come election day either we vote for McCain/Palin the reformers that stand for many solid American values, or we vote for obama/Biden and their anti-American pro-Marxist hollow ideology, that is the reality, ignoring it does not make it go away, stop being childish and address my query as to why you give the Obama/Biden ticket a pass, the same ticket that will certainly destroy this great nation, answer my query, or find yourself alone, why do you give Obama/Biden a free pass? you Paulistas will not get away with ruining the country, God help all of you if you steal votes from McCain/Palin, you will reap what you have chosen to sow.

3:16 PM  
Blogger Tomás Estrada-Palma said...

Your are not talking about the Constitution but I am. My political candidates MUST always support it or they receive not my vote. Been doing that my entire voting life. Again you go with the childish label but zero examples of how my behavior is in any way or form childish except that I won't play by your rules. Obviously the constitution means nothing to you or you'd discuss it. But I hold it dear to my form of republican constitutional government. Go and vote for McCain the democracy spreader. Not me though. No reason to that has been enumerated to me in any logical fashion unless fear of being called childish would prod me into doing so. But alas I don't have that fear.

Now you say we Paulistas are ruining the country but it is YOUR neocon traitor to the constitution that are in charge.

Send me over a "LOGICAL" argument about how we have ruined America and McNugget Mac has no hand in it along with the neocon scum. I'd be interested to hear how you spin it. Give it a shot amigo.


Finally, you in effect say that my vote and that of the revolutionaries for liberty belong to Macky since you ask God's help because we are stealing the votes which I always assumed were my property. But collectivists do vote and think collectively. By the way there is ample evidence of vote stealing my McCain and the other collectivists candidates. Alas...I'm an individualist. Sorry again amigo.

5:02 PM  
Blogger Angel Garzón said...

Now you're sounding like someone that cannot read properly, read what I have said and don't try to imply that I have said what you claim that I have said, when in reality it is you who have chosen to misread what I've written. Answer my questions about your selective attacks and stop deviating from the subject, that tactic does not work with me Tomás, you should also know that by now. Answer the questions at hand. Why are you giving Obama/Biden a free pass? It's a simple question, yet you have refused to answer it time and again, you are clearly resembling the kooks on the Left who employ talking points to try to evade the questions that they do not like to answer. What are you afraid of? Answer the question!!!

5:11 PM  
Blogger Tomás Estrada-Palma said...

Again, I don't vote for, because of or with collectivists.

You seem to have an old fashion view of the political spectrum which calls for anyone who disagrees with the neocon right to be labeled childish leftist. Let be more precise. I don't want an oligarchy or a democracy which McCain does advocates while he ignores the constitution as he does so. I want a return to a Constitutional Republic based on law and not the tyranny of the majority you and Mac advocate. Well you'd have to if you do not support the constitution since I'm assuming you don't favor oligarchy. But collectivists on the right like McCain and collectivist like Obama on the right both ignore the Constitution and advocate government power over the individual's, formerly constitutionally protected rights. As such I cannot use the left right political spectrum because it is the more simplistic model preferred by our banker masters. I favor the decision responsibility power be left with the individual while McCain wants government to make these choices as I have alluded to on numerous points of information here which you have thus far refused to address with a logical counter argument.

But we are not leftists just because we do not agree with you and FOX news. Again sorry. Leftist ignore the constitution like you mcCain supporters. So we are not leftist because we favor individual liberty and a minimum of statist contol like the real leftist socialists like obama and right fascist like McCain advocate.

5:17 PM  
Blogger Angel Garzón said...

Learn to read, I did not say you're a Leftist, I clearly said you use their typical tactics to avoid answering the questions they do not like to answer, answer my question. Why are you giving Obama/Biden a free pass? What are you afraid of? Can't answer perhaps because you know that such answer will expose something about you that you refuse to publicly acknowledge Tomás? Answer the simple question. Don't be a chicken, answer the question!!!

5:24 PM  
Blogger Tomás Estrada-Palma said...

You have made an incorrect assumption based on the false notion that I can only have two choices. Just because I do not vote for McCain in no way endorses Obama.

Again you expect me to vote collectively with the herd though I've never done so before. So your question as to why I'm giving Obama a free pass is invalid.

I give Obama no free pass, nor my vote. If you want to say that by my voting for the libertarian candidate helps Obama perhaps. That's not my problem. I want whoever wins the election to not have a shadow of a doubt about what I want. A vote for either McCain or Obama does not accomplish that. I'd just be another voter in the herd.

You can herd vote if you like but I can't. I don't want any misunderstandings about what I want.

So that question is dispensed with. Do you have more or will YOU answer a simple question like do you favor individual rights enumerated under the Constitution?

You don't appear to favor it.

5:26 PM  
Blogger Tomás Estrada-Palma said...

On another topic, have you seen the whopper of a hurricane heading smack dad for Cuba. Cat 4 and appears to be heading in a path to cut long ways across the island. This could be it amigo! Millions of homeless desperate hungry thirsty Cubans. The government top dogs could just flee the island because they sure have no resources to help the poor Cubans.

5:39 PM  
Blogger Angel Garzón said...

The question stands because you have repeatedly refused to answer it. Why are you giving the Obama/Biden ticket a free pass?

I could not care less about whom you will vote for, you have the right to vote for a flying mosquito named puke that passed you by on the way to the polls.

My problem with you is simple, you savagely attack the McCain/Palin ticket but you give the Obama/Biden ticket a free pass. Sounds like the ramblings and rantings of a sore loser "Republican" to me, your man LOST, get over it and move on, that's what adults do, face reality and deal with it, my candidate won and has also chosen an outstanding running-mate and you cannot handle THAT truth. My question is a simple and fair one. Answer my question!!!

5:41 PM  
Blogger Tomás Estrada-Palma said...

It's because you have not asked me why I'm not voting for Obama. I'd be happy to attack Obama with his record as well if you'd like.

So if you feel I've given a free pass sorry. But you've been discussing McCain. I'm not smart enough to give an answer that will answer all possible follow up questions. But I'm working on it everyday.

As for truths, unlike McCain the liar, I stick with it. His running mate I have no opinion on as I know zero about her. I suspect she is a dupe and malleable in the eyes of our banker masters. But she causes me no worry.

5:48 PM  
Blogger Tomás Estrada-Palma said...

Here is the thing I hate about Obama the most. He pretended to be the anti Iraqi war candidate and suckered all the leftist voters into pulling the lever for him in the primaries. Collectivist like Obama are Leninist - say and do anything to get in charge then do what you like.

Now he's funding the war left...and right. If these leftist vote for anybody but Obama Mac may have a chance. So lest you fear I'm unfair to Mac I am working everyday to pull Obama lefty voters away from him and to one of the pro liberty people running.

In reality I've had 10 time greater success doing this than my campaign against McCain. So if Mac wins it will be because of people like me, and there are thousands of us, who have pulled all these voter away from Obama. The left really despises Omaba and pelosi now. Did you realize that amigo? I did because I engage my enemy and try to roll them my way. I've had better luck with the lefties.

5:57 PM  
Blogger Tomás Estrada-Palma said...

O-MOB-A! HA! There is a handle to attack Obama with - he is the rabble's candidate. A vote for Obama is a vote for the o'MOB a.

There is some great stuff to attack him with. SOLID GOLD!!!

So dare not accuse your amigo of giving that statist a free ride. I could not live with myself.

6:01 PM  
Blogger Ms Calabaza said...

Mr. Estrada Palma,

I am a frequent reader of your blog but I have never commented until now. I respect your idealism and have no doubt that what you are telling us is either the truth or the truth you believe to be. I don't know much about the council of foreign relations (I would appreciate some links if you have some) but I do feel we are in a crossroads. I am very, very fearful of an Obama win. I think McCain may not be what we want but every vote that goes to Ron Paul instead of McCain is a win for Obama. Remember what Nader did to Gore. I respect your idealism but IMHO sometimes we have to be pragmatic, if not Machiavellian to save us from real evil. Just my two cents. Thanks for letting me comment.

6:06 PM  
Blogger Tomás Estrada-Palma said...

Thanks for the comment Ms. Calabaza. As my one vote will not change the outcome of the race I will always vote my conscience. But as I've stated I've had ten time better success swinging leftist voters my way than McCain voter. So if McCain does win it will be because the left is angrier at Obama for double crossing them on the war than the right is about McCain. But I fell certain you'll hate them both soon enough. But time only will tell of course so debating the subject would be futile at this juncture.

By the way Ron Paul is not a candidate and does not want a write in campaign. So I go to plan B. Convince as many people as possible to vote for the Libertarian party to help them gain ballot access so they will finally be operating on a level playing field with the two main parties. The demos and repos now benefit from our apartheid ballot access system which give those two parties automatic access to the ballot but requires everybody else to collect millions of petition signatures from registered voters to just get on the ballot. That costs millions of dollars.

6:22 PM  
Blogger Ms Calabaza said...

Mr E-P:

I actually see your point and have felt for a very long time that we need a third party. I hope and pray that what you are saying comes to pass and that you are able to sway Obama votes.

Me, I'm too paranoid not to vote for McCain because to me Obama is a Manchurian candidate.

If you can guide me to some links on the CFR, I'd really appreciate.

Thanks again.

7:24 PM  
Blogger Tomás Estrada-Palma said...

Try this link:

http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/shadow/cfrintro.htm

It shows who began the council and connects many of the dots of the rulers behind the scene and shows their objectives. The same scoundrels have been responsible for much evil and their descendants and followers are in charge today - though most regular folks have no idea.

This is disturbing stuff. Like in the movie "The Matrix" most will just take the blue pill and believe what they have been told. Don't take the red pill unless you want to know what is really happening and have a lot of courage to deal with this knowledge of what is really going on.

Thanks again amiga!

7:52 PM  
Blogger Ms Calabaza said...

No, thank you... I guess reading this may keep me up at night, but I'm too curious not too.

Thanks again.

7:57 PM  
Blogger Tomás Estrada-Palma said...

Your welcome!

Also "The Creature From Jekyll Island" is very good at explaining the creation of the Federal Reserve. You see we have had a series of Manchurian presidents dating back to Wilson who had an affair the bankers knew about which forced him to sign the Federal Reserve Act.

http://www.brianrwright.com/Coffee_Coaster/03_Book_Reviews/2007/070829_Jekyll_Island.htm

Only once you understand the swindle of the Federal Reserve system can you understand my unbending opposition to Obama, McCain and each and every politician that permits this abomination to continue swindling Americans. I'm hoping you knew the Federal Reserve was a cabal of private national and international bankers, right? It's not a federal agency and is a direct violation of the constitution. Most people think gasoline is more costly today. It is not. The value of the dollar has been devalued by the Fed by printing up counterfeit fiat money and flooding the world with it. So for example in the 1960s a gallon of gas was around 30 cents. If you took the silver from those dimes, melted them down you could still buy a gallon of gas today. But we are forced under penalty of law to use Fed fake fiat paper money based on nothing. That is what has declined in value - the dollar. In fact in 1913 when the federal reserve was created what you could buy for a couple pennies then will cost a dollar today.

Now here is the problem Americans faces. We're an uppity bunch who actually think of ourselves as free. This is bad news to the banksters. They must destroy American and split it up like the USSR so we don't revolt. The bankers have bought and paid for every presidential candidate since Wilson and their opposition in the other party just for good measure. That way it makes no difference which you choose. This is why I will not vote for Obama or McCain. They are both Manchurian candidates like Bush and Gore.

Money is not wealth - it is a symbol of wealth. If the bankers can print up more wealth symbols any time they feel like it that diminish the value of all of our money. That's what they have done for almost 100 years.

So we could strike oil today, double the production and before too long we'd be right back in the same economic situation we're in now. This unlikely scenario would just give the bankers the ability to print up twice as much money as they do now. Ask yourself this question:

Which can be done faster? Can you print up money faster than you can drill for oil? So it will not make one iota of difference if we drill more for oil since the bankers can always print up money faster.

Finally, all this swindle is accomplished because the MSM is completely controlled by the bankers. Cubans know the MSM is crap on Cuba coverage but they fall for everything else spewed forth by them like a teenager with a crush. Frankly, as a Cuban it's embarrassing.

5:58 AM  
Blogger Angel Garzón said...

Tomás, you and me both know these statements to be true, the majority of the American people do not and frankly, at this point in history they are not receptive to these truths, the people are pissed off for the fact is that the government of the people can only do but so much at once, especially when so much is taking place at the same time, most people would rather live in bliss as long as they can feel that they are safe and that their elected officials and representatives are performing their duties.

For the truths about the Federal Reserve, which as you know is no more "Federal" than Federal Express, to be accepted and understood by the majority of the people requires education, you already know my stand on that issue and I know yours, let's face it, it's an uphill battle both ways, that's why I have always defended your honesty, you're not opining, you're expressing the facts based on historical evidence, but you fail to accept, even though you understand, that pragmatism is a requirement of wise living, pure idealism sounds great and makes its supporters feel good and fulfilled, but without practical results it is just as effective as having relations with a sexual partner, it feels great for awhile, but it cannot last for more than a limited time, afterwards reality kicks in again and other things have to be addressed.

You mean well, your intentions are indeed noble, but you have to acquire the wisdom to be pragmatic, otherwise you will spend the rest of your life frustrated and angry, take my advice for what it is, the counsel of a friend.

12:28 PM  
Blogger Tomás Estrada-Palma said...

Thanks amigo. But I feel no anger now. You had to be around the volcano back in the 1980s to see anger. For me, this is the beginning of a golden age. So I'm real happy...even with the sex thing, at least so far at 22 years.

On another topic, have you had any word from Cuba? This is a killer storm.

6:26 PM  

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