Saturday, January 24, 2009

So Much Ignorance

It is a pity so much exists when the Internet exists. Put a logical mind together with the Internet and you can cut through so much ignorance. Take my wife for example. Yesterday she tried to tell me that thermate is use in welding and that is why it was found all over New York after 9/11. I tried to explain that no - the high explosive thermate is not used in welding, but she insisted it was even though she has never welded. Basically, there are two ways to weld - gas torch and arc welding. Arc welding uses these tips that have an electrical charge run through it making it very hot. But my college educated wife still thinks they use high explosives to weld. It's easy to verify. Just go to any welding supply outlet and try to buy some thermate for welding. It doesn't exist. It is not used in welding - period end of case. But my wife will never know as she won't look like so many others who are content to believe the TV.

Next a friend tells me that jet fuel can melt steel. But steel does not begin to melt until around 2500 degrees. I tried to explain that jet fuel was merely kerosene treated with some minor additives for cold weather burning but to no avail. My friend could have gone here to discover that this is a fact. But that is unlikely as this would prove me correct about too many unpleasant things. My friend could have seen on this page that jet fuel clearly burns at only 549.5 °F - almost 2000 °F cooler than steel requires to even begin to get soft. Common sense dictates that steel jet engines would melt if jet fuel could melt steel. Then my friend suggested that the steel in building columns were made of some flimsy steel that would melt at 549.5 °F. My friend said the steel beams in the World Trade Center buildings were not three feet thick as I had witnessed. So what if they were only one foot thick. That is still much thicker than jet engine steel. Yet jet engines operate for thousands of hours burning jet fuel and never melt. All the steel frame buildings in the world that have ever caught fire are still standing today except for three - the two World Trade Center Towers and the CIA building number 7 that also was imploded on 9/11.

You see amigos, I seek the truth no matter where it leads. The truth is I'll give any of you $1000 if you can come over with some jet fuel and melt ANY type of steel with it. Go ahead and give it a try. I could safely offer any amount of prize money and never be out a dime. Get some kerosene and get it as hot as you like but you'll never melt steel with it and my money will always remain safely tucked away in my wallet. But most of you will never do that and just assume Tomas is crazy. Just like I was crazy about the economy back in 2007 when I warned you that this bad economy was heading our way. But the same guys who say jet fuel melts building steel but not jet engines assured you the economy was fine. Well...at least they are not saying the economy is fine any longer.

5 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Very few people knew that the economy would spiral down. Unfortunately its getting worse. I think it will be more than a year before there is any improvement. Sol

9:15 PM  
Blogger Arthur Scheuerman said...

The steel long span beams failed from steel expansion which puts the steel under high compression which shears off the bolts or buckles the beam. Long span beams expand a longer distance than short span beams and they still have their full strength in the beginning of the expansion. NIST computer studies show that this strength while the beam is elongating can shear off the bolts connecting the beams to the columns or girders as the restrained beams expand if the connections are not designed to counter this effect. This strength can also crack the concrete slab at the shear studs and buckle the beam itself as differential internal compression builds up during expansion.

A buckled or bowing long span (over 40 feet) beam can impart large tension forces on the connections especially when a sagging beam begins to shrink as it cools. Bowing occurs when the bottom flange of a steel beam expands faster than the top flange. The fireproofing insulation thickness schedules in the Building Code were developed for the short span floors which were used in the older buildings and this insulation defended against weakness in the steel beams rather than expansion which apparently was not a problem in the shorter spans. Steel weakening occurs later at higher temperatures 1100deg. F (about 600 deg. C). Low temperature expansion effects occur earlier as the steel is first heated at temperatures below 400 deg. C and long span expansion effects have not yet been compensated for in the fir4eproofing insulation codes. This deficiency in high-rise office buildings using long span flooring systems, is a new discovery uncovered by the study of the collapse of the Twin Towers and Buildings 5 and 7 and was first illuminated by the engineering computer studies.

9:21 PM  
Blogger Tomás Estrada-Palma said...

What a crock! Steel cannot be weakened by kerosene fires. The top of those two towers were exploded with high explosives pulverizing the steel and concrete then this debris fell to earth at the speed of gravity. Go ahead and believe that debris can fall through itself as fast as if there were nothing holding it up.

As for Building 7 the government does not barely mention this CIA building that was not hit by any debris the day of the failed coup. It was a classic implosion that even the owner Larry Silverstein admitted was "pulled."

10:09 PM  
Blogger Ms Calabaza said...

Tomas,
if this was a planned implosion what would the motive be?

6:34 AM  
Blogger Tomás Estrada-Palma said...

If it were only one person then maybe there would be only one motive. But this was done by a cabal of conspirators.

First you have Larry Silverstein the owner of the World Trade Center complex. The towers were pre-EPA and filled with toxins like asbestos. He applied to have the towers imploded legally since they would cost ten time more to repair. He was denied a permit. He bought the complex with the legal understanding that if it was hit by terrorism then the debt would be forgiven. However, he insured the buildings for terrorism damage then pocketed millions. These were the millions of reasons that Larry had to participate in the conspiracy.

Next comes the military/media industrial complex. These were the same guys who faked the gulf of Tonkin incident that never actually occurred which got us into the ten years war in Vietnam. That fake false flag operation eventually caused over 50,000 dead GIs. However, the just mentioned complex made billions off of the war. These same snakes have now made trillions off of the Iraq/Afghanistan wars. If they will send 50,000 GIs to their graves for billions do you think a few thousand murdered Americans would get in their way to trillions in war profits?

Next comes the international banksters. They knew this bad economy was on the way because they caused it with their fiat money swindle. The cure for the swindle would be to do away with million of people who would be homeless, jobless, hungry and desperate - like things are becoming now since the coup failed and these millions were not rounded up and eliminated. Criminal, the mentally ill, drug users, street people, people like me who talk too much and others would have been eliminated if the coup would have been successful. But the forth plane was shot down over PA and never made it to the US Capital. Congress was not decapitated so the Bush administration could not proceed with the coup.

The Israelis especially the MOSAD agents who were arrested across the river from New York in NJ as they celebrated the towers collapsing. They had been videoing the towers falling as they slapped each other high fivin' and laughing. The neighbors called the cops thinking they were Arabs. They were arrested by the cops but the Bush administration had them released the next day. They got what they wanted - America hating Muslims who they wrongly blamed for the Bush coup. Israel has done this before as well. The U.S. Liberty was repeatedly bombed by Israeli jets during the six day war back in the sixties. It was to be blamed on the Egyptians then the U.S. would attack Egypt. But the Israelis won that war and it became unnecessary.

Were there more conspirators? Undoubtedly. But murders are investigated whether or not the motive has been established. Nine eleven is the only case I ever heard of where I must establish a motive before we can investigate.

Forget about what motivated the murderers. Concentrate on the murders. These snakes have been doing these things for decades and will continue to do more if we don't arrest and prosecute them. They are in big trouble if the rest of you every wise up.

9:23 AM  

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